Human Web CollectiveFriends, if you haven't already, it would be a big favour to me if you could enable tags
Evan Prodromou π¨π¦πΊπΈπ¬π·π΅πΈFriends, if you haven't already, it would be a big favour to me if you could enable tags.pub to boost your public tagged posts.
Just follow @_followback . It will follow you back, and when you make a post with a hashtag in it, the server will boost your post from the appropriate hashtag.
If you're interested in any topics, like @nokings , follow that account to get posts with that hashtag from across the Fediverse.
Let me know how it works for you!
@evan@cosocial.ca I followed but didnβt get an accept or follow back, so I think thereβs something up on my end! The relay follow also didnβt work so Iβll need to take a closer look this week π
@julian OK. I use a separate key ID and actor ID for HTTP Signature, so that can throw off some implementations.
@julian I commented on the ticket! Looks like we can both make some changes to make this more robust. I'm going to push and test today.
@evan@cosocial.ca confirming that I am now able to follow the followback bot :smile:
Still unable to establish the relay, however, so I opened a ticket on the SWF repo there.
@julian OK, I'll take a look!
@julian awesome!
@evan @_followback It worked perfect. My obscure hashtag showed up @cogdogcooltech
@cogdog awesome!
@evan But here is a concern or maybe I am missing something. Every time I use a hashtag I get a boost notification from its account on tags.pub. This is excessive noise. It puts a burden on having to put a mute on each account?
@cogdog @evan yeah this makes Tags.pub totally not usable in its current form. I was gonna report about this situation too after enabling it for a few days. Now my boost count is completely off too so if I make a post that ends in 5 hashtags it makes it look like this is a more popular post then one that has 0 hashtags.
@liaizon @cogdog I've got an issue open for this.
github.com/social-web-foundati
Right now, I think the only thing we can do is submit a patch to Mastodon to let you ignore boost notifications from a particular account or domain.
@evan @cogdog this isn't mastodon specific tho, it would need to be "patched" in every codebase that supports sharing so the boost number would still be correct otherwise every piece of software that shows interaction numbers will inflate them for posts that are interacted with by Tags.pub
@liaizon@social.wake.st well, I mean, it is a boost, technicallyβ¦.. Mastodon and other software could technically not count announces from actors identifying themselves as service type actors maybe?
cc @evan@cosocial.ca
@liaizon @cogdog They are the correct numbers, though. tags.pub does real boosts.
And if you're interested in a hashtag, search for thathashtag at-symbol tags.pub in your Mastodon search UI and follow it there. It will boost all the content it finds with that tag to you.
@evan@cosocial.ca Hi, Iβve filed an issue on tags.pub regarding RFC 9421 HTTP Message Signatures compatibility. tags.pub rejects
Content-Digestheaders with βNo digest provided,β which prevents Fedify 2.1+ servers from following tags.pub accounts.https://github.com/social-web-foundation/tags.pub/issues/22
@hongminhee so, the good news is that I can use the Fedify CLI to do an authorized fetch for an actor, and the debug output shows that RFC 9421 signatures worked. π₯³ The bad news is that the follow test still doesn't work. π«€ I'll keep trying and see what I can do.
@hongminhee awesome! Thanks for the detective work. I'll catch us right up.
@evan I read years ago that multi-word tags should be done in CamelCase, for the benefit of screenreaders. So when I take my posts, I'm careful to do so. It appears however that tags.pub lowercases all my tags.
I understand that it shouldn't create separate accounts for tags that vary only by capitalisation, but when creating a new account, why not preserve the capitalisation of the original tag?
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@mayintoronto one reason is because your friend Evan asked you to do it as a favour.
Another reason is that when you "follow" a hashtag in Mastodon, it only filters the content that got to your server for other reasons.
There are three ways that content arrived: either you follow the author, someone else on your server follows the author, or your server is subscribed to a relay.
tags.pub lets you follow a hashtag globally, not just filter what got to your server.
@evan @mayintoronto This description sounds like following a tags.pub via hashtag is even more limited as it only gets tags from people whoβve opted into tags.pub.
@Chigaze @mayintoronto Yes, it's still in its early stages, but the architecture is made so it can handle more and more content over time. The system is opt-in for individuals, but servers and whole platforms can opt in, also.
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@mayintoronto yes!
@evan @_followback @joe Evan: how many people do you think you need to be a big enough sample?
And maybe reach out to each big servers admin to ask them to follow?
@tchambers @joe great idea!
I think it's a really interesting question of how much of the Fediverse needs to be providing data to tags.pub.
I think this might be an interesting network science problem. I'll do some math and let you know!